Recognize if you're not happy - then do something about it. lol ah well. What kinds of clinical experience did you have going into medical school, and how strongly did they influence your choice of specialty, if at all? I'm on the west coast though, so it's not really plausible. I will add to OP's comment about #4: step 1 studying is highly variable between medical schools and medical students. Specifically, please be respectful to your fellow posters. With primary care being pressured to see increasing number of patients and with scheduled appointments back to back, do you feel like you have enough time to spend with patients? Some minor research, some volunteering at various programs like Habitat, or working one on one with a person that had multiple sclerosis. I'd never recommend a primary care physician take any job less than 5 weeks time off, unless you really love every other aspect of it. [–]billythegruffgoat 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (2 children). In no particular order: Thailand street food / food markets, Icelandic hot dogs, grilled Portugese lamb and pork. If thinking more within the US -- Charleston SC has a very world-class food scene. [–]masterp1992 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child), [–]DahmengMS2 7 points8 points9 points 3 years ago (3 children). I still have to work within the confines of the office rules. Is your wife a doctor as well? Or do mission trips / free clinics. You're welcome! However, the more specialized you get or the smaller your specialty group, the more call you'll take so the harder it would be to actually get away. Some cities and medical systems may prefer an IM, but I still know FM friends who are hospitalists in major cities. Figured I'd open one up here to. In many health systems, physicians are compensated on a pay for production model. Connecticut beats the national average by 3.2%, and Massachusetts furthers that trend with another $12,123 (5.8%) above the $209,044. If you don't mind me asking, how exactly did you negotiate such high salaries in family medicine? "Each day for me starts around 6:30 a.m. in the clinic. Had to think about the spelling for a while...but ultimately was too lazy to cross reference it on Google. 2) Which class did you find the hardest in medical school? Stick with it! He's mastered the art of pulling pertinent information from a patient to devise the appropriate treatment plan while listening to the patients concerns, all in a time efficient manner. Did you have a roommate during med school? I don't ever work clinic on weekends, but you can end up taking phone- call. I'm H. Smooth, and this is my doctor shop. I tried to lift about 3 times a week during med school, but on average probably ended up being more like 2 times. So you have to balance how much time you want off vs how much money you need on your paycheck lol, [–]gotlactosePHYSICIAN 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (1 child). You have to keep an open and honest line of communication with your loved ones. [–]hsmooth83[S] 12 points13 points14 points 3 years ago (4 children). Phitsanulok and Chiang Mai. Please read this while building your school list, especially to determine out of state friendly public schools and class sizes, If you are considering applying to the for-profit Caribbean medical schools, please read this first. Exactly! Easiest/most interesting? Their patients can come see you whenever they need to because you're not as busy as you would be working for a clinic. It's a given. My fiancée is finishing PA school this year and I hope to go into family medicine. At that point, you've accrued ~200k in debt, and with interest, will end up paying ~400k when all is said and done. [–]spareanyexchangeREAPPLICANT :'( 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (3 children), That's so funny, I'm an American at a big Canadian school hoping to go back to the states after graduating. Or transition into administrative work. I've seen no instances where being a DO has ever affected my ability to get a job. [–]nonam3r 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (3 children). Would you say that most physicians you see are happy? [–]EpicSX 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (3 children), Have you ever been discriminated by MDs for being a DO? Wow, that's amazing. and not a M.D.? Rendered by PID 17300 on r2-app-0d42dc13095ebb974 at 2021-01-01 23:44:39.280389+00:00 running c709bd6 country code: US. Deeeeetroittttt basketballllllllll. 7) The surgical rotations were more stressful to me due to a combination of getting to work early and staying late, not knowing what the heck you're supposed to do in the OR, and the occasional getting pimped by being asked questions. Everyone has to listen to the administrators. My wife and I realized we missed living in a larger city. Please wait until your account has reached the age/karma limit and then try to post again. Then why did you come see me in the first place? We went to Krabi and Chiang Mai. Not gonna lie, I feel like this can't really be happening to me sometimes. [–]ODhopeful 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children). So what you do is up to you! Is that true? Haha could I possibly shadow? I currently practice as an employed physician in a large multi-specialty medical group. During dedicated time, I was studying 6-10 hours a day. I even failed Step 2 once. [–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (3 children). 3 years out in practice, I've cut down my loan debt to about $130k, while paying off my wife's entire $80k loans that were at high interest rates. I'm a Family Med doctor, which is a field that most people have personal experience with, but gets a bad rap on SDN. There's so much to know, you could still learn something every day. I enjoyed some of the 'fluff' courses like history and art in medicine. My wife and I are currently dual income, no kids. :), [–]hsmooth83[S] 11 points12 points13 points 3 years ago (0 children), [–]gotlactosePHYSICIAN 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (0 children). No, no MD has ever asked me what a DO is. Yeah, even taking into consideration just one potential future child. Plus the physician advocacy groups / membership groups can be powerful enough to make sure our profession will adapt and carry on. Edit: after your first year on contract, most jobs will transition you to production based salary. He was really involved in the community and was highly regarded. Greece and the Mediterranean. Not sure what they'll do with some of these laws, but there is a significant portion of America that depends on immigrant physicians for health care. How often did you play ball and lift throughout med school/residency/now? A Family Medicine Physician reported making $190,158 per year. Do you like your job? [–]hsmooth83[S] 7 points8 points9 points 3 years ago (0 children). I had one gap year because I'm originally from Canada and the admission requirements for Canadian med schools are super tight. Thanks, [–]skyguy246MS1 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (1 child). [–]ODhopeful 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (2 children). 1) Where did you go to medical school? What are thoughts about the trend of family medicine salary rising? I'm one of 2 docs and there's also 2 mid levels / advanced providers. The average salary of a doctor in Iowa ranges from $305,000 annually on an average that tends to differ a lot with the possession of specialty. This national sample shows that invasive cardiologists were once again offered the highest average physician salaries, at $648,000 for 2018/2019, which was an increase from the previous year. Some of that is their choice. My first week as a full time attending. And you're going through the same struggles with 200 other med students so there's usually a lot of support. Although I realized it's a bit small for my tastes which is why we are moving. I know one physician who sees 30 pts a day but has one of the highest patient satisfaction scores, and also one of the highest quality marker scores (i.e. Egypt. and join one of thousands of communities. However, you can basically make any specialty a lifestyle specialty. This is popular with families and the elderly because they can keep their insurance deductables high for major things and still have access for the routine stuff. - won't vaccinate their children because they don't want to harm them I work here with my old cat and my secretary, Big Rhonda. When you get into residency try to maximize your Roth 401 accounts. Work smarter, not necessarily harder. Residency was a lot tougher. Met lots of new people, dated, new hobbies. 1) Now that you're a practicing physician, have you ever had any instances in the workplace where a colleague (physician, PA, NP, etc.) Filesharing is prohibited in this subreddit. It's weird -- sometimes I get a sense of jealousy and animosity from our own family members when we tell them about some plans for our trips. There are good PAs/NPs and then there are inadequate PAs/NPs, just like there are good and not so good physicians. Family Medicine Physician (BOARD CERTIFIED) COMPETITIVE SALARY* EXCELLENT BENEFITS* LOAN REPAYMENT *FOREIGN WAIVERS APPROVED. That sounds great! Best food? The work/life balance you have seems to be amazing, [–]DrNayMenAPPLICANT 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (1 child). Benefits of the career outweigh the downsides. Still, family physician income is up from last year's average income of $219,000. Once in a while I'll have a friend or family ask me for my opinion on something. [–]hsmooth83[S] 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children), [–]nejikonADMITTED-MD 8 points9 points10 points 3 years ago (9 children). Hope your move goes as smoothly as possible! Which part of Thailand did you go to? Just reading through all the answers and responses and I want to say thank you! You're never going to know everything. use the following search parameters to narrow your results: RULES. are most of these people your classmates? I personally don't feel worried about systems hiring PAs/NPs - but there should still be a good, ethical supervising physician overseeing things. Company - Private. Yes, some times I do feel like a 'cog in a giant machine'. I'm currently changing jobs. My gf and I would love to be traveling too but we can't due to school but knowing that your life is pretty easy once you get through it makes it all seem worth it. Interesting point I hadn't thought of. Why family medicine ? I probably should have just applied more broadly and to the American med schools the first time around. [–]throwawaymcat2MS1 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (1 child), I'm also a premed interested in doing FM and I just wanted to thank you for doing this! Also, would you have gone to a cheaper school, if you had the option - any regrets? Glad you're my doc'. [–]hsmooth83[S] 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (4 children), [–]masterp1992 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (3 children). To ask a specific set of questions and click the right boxes in the patients charts to follow 'meaningful use' and get credit for doing certain things. When you're done with the MCAT, don't do what I did - I celebrated by racking up a $300 bar tab, partying with the other MCAT test takers, and taking 13 shots of tequila in about an hour. 3) I wish someone told me to learn more about personal finance before getting in to med school. Gorilla trekking in Rwanda / Uganda. Was probably poo poo'ed by the ER as nothing. When I step back and reflect on my life and career, yes. I looked at jobs in a major city in the mountain west region and they were offering $230k. A lot of days I get 0 phone calls. Did you take any gap years, and if so do you regret it or not ? 86 Primary Care Physician jobs available in College Station, TX on Indeed.com. Say you're a cardiothoracic surgeon and you're only one of 3 in the area. I had thoughts about it as early as when I was a young teenager I suppose. Ever since I started using the new Dragon dictation program, it's been much more efficient doing all my charting by the time I leave work at 5pm. Length of the fellowship, salary, and details of curriculum (i.e. When I worked at the hospital I know of some young docs who hooked up with a whole bunch of nurses. But I've never had to step foot in the office/clinic on a weekend or holiday, [–]moneybags493MS3 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (3 children). Sorry I probably wasn't clear earlier. Your post-residency life sounds like my dream... [–]hsmooth83[S] 6 points7 points8 points 3 years ago (4 children). In some places, it's really taken off. Outpatient only positions available as we have a strong hospitalist program. I'm coming up on my 3rd year of practice so I like to think I'm still young and can relate to life as a pre-med, med student, or resident. Very interesting!! Topping the list is New York, with New Hampshire and Vermont close behind in second and third. I'd tell my premed self to not freak out about every little thing that could go wrong. Can I share my blog/vlog/YouTube channel/website/business/etc? A key component of being relentless is listening to the patient and understanding their situation by digging deeper into their stories. I would say your rotations you do as a med student probably influence your choice of specialty more than anything you did as a premed. [–]gymbuzzz 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (1 child). Yeah, it's not too bad of a size. [–]TofutigerMS1-CAN 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (5 children). Thanks for doing this. Saw them in my clinic. I'm looking at going into primary care and my grades are definitely not so competitive but I believe in myself and just appreciate the reassurance on this post that I'll get there eventually. [–]hsmooth83[S] 33 points34 points35 points 3 years ago (2 children). However, when you find the one job that is the best fit for you, diplomacy is paramount to ensuring a smooth interview and negotiation process. During the easier rotations I'd play every few weeks. To further help reassure you or others -- I was bottom third in my med school class percentile. I can make requests to have certain hours (within reason) but the office manager would have to see if they can juggle everyone else's schedule as well. If I remember correctly, I probably did this for a few months leading up to the exam. Is it relatively rare to make >300k/year as a family doc? There are days here and there where I'm frustrated with the daily slog of patient care. That's awesome! She's done everything from ER to family med and now soon to be urgent care. Leaning towards IM. 2) How often have you used OMM in your practice? Figured I'd open one up here to. Assuming absolutely no more growth in salary … Some ended up marrying them. [–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (1 child). But also don't forget to take time to enjoy life even if you're going through premed classes, MCAT studying, med school admissions, exams, and Step 1, 2, 3. Ah, got it. It's where I met my wife. Thank you! The average starting salary for investment bankers, with bonus, is $114,000 and rises to $163,000 for third-year analysts. Meaning, the more you do (procedures, diagnostics, etc) and the more patients you see, the more money you make. 8-5 and 8-noon on the half day. [–]hsmooth83[S] 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (0 children). [–]hsmooth83[S] 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child). Great books you've been reading. Please post only on-topic premed posts or questions. As a family medicine doctor, do you currently run an independent practice or are you practicing with a group? What was your backup plan if becoming a physician didn't work out for you? Every Mon off. I was in Thailand last summer and I'm still craving some khao soi I had at a small outdoor restaurant. Why can't I see my post? Just a few questions.. Any type of national or regional policy will have it's own problems as you know, you can't design a healthcare policy that works for everyone. I definitely feel a super cut throat pre med environment here, [–]spareanyexchangeREAPPLICANT :'( 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child), [–]juiceup17UNDERGRAD 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (1 child). Recently had a change in plans and am heavily considering family medicine. [–]hsmooth83[S] 10 points11 points12 points 3 years ago (6 children). Grew up watching the Bad Boys, then was in college when they won in 2004. [–]MedaviationMS3 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (3 children). Vermont beats the national average by 4.9%, and New York furthers that trend with another $29,863 (14.4%) above the $208,024. Thank you for motivating me to keep pushing through applications and remember the end goal! Some weeks you're working 80 hours a week. Not often. You're not going to escape paperwork no matter what specialty you're in. Site Director for the Rural Training Track Residency Program designed to support and fulfill the mission and purpose of Family Medicine Residency of the Mississippi Delta. [–]Stitch_Rose 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (3 children). It helps having a good relationship and being well liked by your senior residents and attendings. If you're having trouble finding someone to shadow, I recommend just shooting an email to the human resources department at the hospital / health system in your area. In some order. My appointment slots are either 15 minutes or 30 minutes. No idea what specialty I'll end up in, but I plan on traveling as much as humanly possible. Nah, not super hard to get hospitalist job. As someone who's been in that situation many times, I want to do right by my patients by giving them the time they need without worrying about compensation. You'll also enjoy a reasonable work-life balance that provides pl… Employer name has been removed to protect anonymity. I might road trip down there because food. $190,158. Life can be really good when you're done with all the exams, school, and training. some people seem to say that you shouldnt date classmates/coworkers to avoid the mess. Saw them in follow up. They have been in practice many years more than me so I'm not afraid to run cases with them either even if they're 'just' a PA/NP. In When Breath Becomes Air, Dr Kalanithi recalls his own medical appointments when he wanted to push for a lung cancer investigation but felt powerless as a patient despite being a neurosurgery resident at a top program outside of that examination room. I'm coming up on my 3rd year of practice so I like to think I'm still young and can relate to life as a pre-med, med student, or resident Our generation is never going to have to worry about this. Anyone accepted this cycle without taking the MCAT? You're welcome! Thought something wasn't right. It's important for me to spend time with loved ones or travel and visit people/places. The list goes on and on... [–]alkapwnee 9 points10 points11 points 3 years ago (1 child). I actually think a more important factor is cost of tuition. On my last contract I successfully negotiated an extra $30k of salary / bonus. Sadly they're pretty unwatchable at the moment. Patagonia. Actually we don't really know what more we can do with all this extra income we have. Or start working in health policy. It's crazy, and an honor, to be a part of your patient's life. You never really know what might walk into your clinic that day. The lowest average physician salaries among the most-requested searches were paid to family medicine physicians, with an average salary of $239,000, down just slightly from the previous year. This marked about a 21.5% increase for PCPs from 2015, and about a 20% increase for Specialists. In terms of time for hobbies: [–]Bahamasmama11 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (1 child). [–]WesKhalifaaMS2 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (1 child). 2) You'd have to consider what specialty you're looking to get in to. Instead of a traditional fee for service, some physicians are charging a monthly retainer fee. The most phone calls I get is probably 3 per call shift. We have unscheduled/walk-in or urgent care hours from 6:30 to 7:30 a.m., and the first scheduled patient on most days will arrive at 8:00 a.m. Generally speaking you get your patients that: A few years later, patient had gone through a series of tests, eventually had an LVAD and now had a heart transplant...all in this patient who was my age. Thank goodness! When ranking your match list, was family medicine your most-preferred specialty? But you are right, listening to your patient can probably get you to the right diagnosis 85% of the time. Description. 3) What specialties would you recommend if I value lifestyle just as much as you? Physical Sciences, Verbal Reasoning, Biological Sciences, Chemical and Physical Foundations of Biological Systems, Critical Analysis and Reasoning Skills, Biological and Biochemical Foundations of Living Systems, Psychological, Social, and Biological Foundations of Behavior. [–]hsmooth83[S] 13 points14 points15 points 3 years ago (5 children). - don't take any of your medical recommendations on treatment plan. I may have missed it? A family physician is a specialist who practices family medicine. Visit PayScale to research family physician / doctor salaries by city, experience, skill, employer and more. Did you always want to go into family medicine? [–]MagicalPizza212MS1 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (1 child). I'd say on probably in the $70-$125k range depending on specialty. Sometimes I have patients come to me from other providers and I'm appalled by the management and care they've been getting elsewhere - shortsightedness, lack of knowledge of current guidelines, irresponsible care, giving controlled substances to patients with substance abuse history, list goes on. I know of many FM docs that got hospitalist jobs easily. Sometimes I'll have patients who purposely seeked me out as their physician because they had such great experiences in the past with their DO physician. Salary, while not a huge factor, is a small concern for me, and I'd really appreciate any insight. Salary, while not a huge factor, is a small concern for me, and I'd … They want to do things 'naturally'. Or moonlight at a small ER. According to the United States Bureau of Labor Statistics, on average, family practice doctors earn about $195,000 a year. I never seriously considered IM because I knew I didn't want to do inpatient work. As more baby boomers become senior citizens, certain specialties will experience more demand for medical services. I just had one other question. It's crazy to think about. I heard these don't really help compensation wise but rather helps you diversify your career. So make sure you enjoy today too! Is it relatively rare to make >300k/year as a family doc? [–]RaidenXVCOMS-1 7 points8 points9 points 3 years ago (1 child). What's the pay like for p.a's? You make less money if you live in high cost of living major cities like NYC, Boston, on the west coast. lol.Here's 5 to start. I do some procedures like joint injections, skin biopsies, and manual medicine, but not a while lot. Did you have enough time to practice your hobbies during school/residency/even now? What did you feel was the most difficult part of medical school (academically, socially, or otherwise)? Do you ever take work home? Some patients have actively seeked me out because they may have had some prior good encounters with DOs. Rounding 1 in 6 Sundays usually about 6 hours. They don't have as much vacation time as we do, or they choose to spend their vacation time staying at home doing housework. Now, if I didn't do medicine, I'd probably try to become a professional blogger. Or become medical director for some community programs. Physician shortages and demand for family physician jobs . [–]TheRealestDillOMS-1 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (1 child). Full size regulation size basketball court, with upper track and weight area. How long did you have to study specifically for the examination on a daily basis, and for how many weeks? or was it just a product of the time you entered medical school? READ THIS FIRST. I'll usually give them my best opinion but always end with, "but you should see your doctor still". I'm not going into medicine for the pay but accruing all these loans nad being in debt 400k+ and making in the 100-low 200 range when other areas of medicine are well above 200 seems like i would be selling myself short or something. How many hours do you work in a given day and how many patients do you see? If I had to do it all over again I wouldn’t change a thing. The "meet and greet" lasted 5 minutes where I found out next to nothing about him and him about me. So it's not like we're blowing every last penny on our hobbies and travels. [–]hsmooth83[S] 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children). You're gonna be on call every 3rd day. It's nice to hear from the other side and dispel some of misconceptions that premeds hear often. I'm learning more and more about investing properly, but at our current rate we'll probably have net worth of about $1 million by the age of 39. hey just curious...as a FP, how hard is it to land a hospitalist job? 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